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		<title>By: 100+ Parenting Mistakes. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15217</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your encouragement, Amy.   You are right -- God is so merciful and gracious to us and to our families.  I believe He allows us to struggle, to make mistakes, so that we greater understand our need for Him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your encouragement, Amy.   You are right &#8212; God is so merciful and gracious to us and to our families.  I believe He allows us to struggle, to make mistakes, so that we greater understand our need for Him.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank-you for using your godly wisdom to help me understand some things.  We were a follower of this errant teaching until recently.  Your wisdom on punishment and christ paying the price  for our children had me in tears, I&#039;d never thought of it that way.  I now am rethinking some things about our current way of discipline and really want to use the &quot;disciple&quot; in discipline where my 3 children are concerned.  I have noticed the &quot;power struggle&quot; as well and thought that what they did reflected back on me.  Now I see that it goes both ways, love and goodness and mercy also reflects back on me and not so much the control for power that every single human being seeks after if not for the Lord holding her(me) in check.  If only I could go back and re-do...All I can say is thankfully the Lord is gracious and merciful to me and my children.  Thank-you 1000 times over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you for using your godly wisdom to help me understand some things.  We were a follower of this errant teaching until recently.  Your wisdom on punishment and christ paying the price  for our children had me in tears, I&#8217;d never thought of it that way.  I now am rethinking some things about our current way of discipline and really want to use the &#8220;disciple&#8221; in discipline where my 3 children are concerned.  I have noticed the &#8220;power struggle&#8221; as well and thought that what they did reflected back on me.  Now I see that it goes both ways, love and goodness and mercy also reflects back on me and not so much the control for power that every single human being seeks after if not for the Lord holding her(me) in check.  If only I could go back and re-do&#8230;All I can say is thankfully the Lord is gracious and merciful to me and my children.  Thank-you 1000 times over.</p>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15127</link>
		<dc:creator>TulipGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Karen!  

Your comment illustrates another concern I have about the Pearls&#039; teachings as well as other parenting gurus who have made a name for themselves within the Christian subculture.  &lt;i&gt;&quot;I was so thankful to find the pearls before I started parenting. . . What sweet things I have learned from the Pearl’s. . .&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  While I think it is good to acknowledge those who have had an impact in our lives, too often I hear praise go to man&#039;s teachings.  It saddens me to hear parents not acknowledge how their own love, active involvement, and reliance upon Christ has benefited their family--and instead point to a parenting teacher.   (I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve heard, too, &quot;People say I have such a &#039;good baby&#039;--I&#039;m glad I use Babywise.&quot;)

 
&lt;i&gt;&quot;The Pearls have said many times that their training is humanistic techniques and not the gospel.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Would you point me to where they&#039;ve said that?  

Personally, I&#039;ve found that the more we apply the GOSPEL in our family relationships, the more effective our parenting is and the stronger our love is.  Though, it is a daily living-it-out, seeking the Lord, to learn HOW the Gospel is applied in our family.
 
Again, Karen, welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Karen!  </p>
<p>Your comment illustrates another concern I have about the Pearls&#8217; teachings as well as other parenting gurus who have made a name for themselves within the Christian subculture.  <i>&#8220;I was so thankful to find the pearls before I started parenting. . . What sweet things I have learned from the Pearl’s. . .&#8221;</i>  While I think it is good to acknowledge those who have had an impact in our lives, too often I hear praise go to man&#8217;s teachings.  It saddens me to hear parents not acknowledge how their own love, active involvement, and reliance upon Christ has benefited their family&#8211;and instead point to a parenting teacher.   (I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve heard, too, &#8220;People say I have such a &#8216;good baby&#8217;&#8211;I&#8217;m glad I use Babywise.&#8221;)</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The Pearls have said many times that their training is humanistic techniques and not the gospel.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Would you point me to where they&#8217;ve said that?  </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve found that the more we apply the GOSPEL in our family relationships, the more effective our parenting is and the stronger our love is.  Though, it is a daily living-it-out, seeking the Lord, to learn HOW the Gospel is applied in our family.</p>
<p>Again, Karen, welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there. I was so thankful to find the pearls before I started parenting. My husband and I have been so blessed as we look into the faces of our children each day and smile, and train them according to Scripture; as we rise and set, with the joy of the Lord as our strength and driving foolishness away from the child as well as not leaving our children to themselves. What blessing has resulted. We bless others all the time, but more than that we reside in joyful harmony in our family. The Pearls have said many times that their training is humanistic techniques and not the gospel. They are clear on that. In addition, they share  Scripture as it pertains to child raising and share it in context which is pertinent for the Christian to know. The Pearls never condone spanking in anger, NEVER! They also tell of families full of love and joy that aren&#039;t 100% consistent in their training that still raise children that walk in Truth. The Pearls don&#039;t hide success that other have had without spanking. They even share how they were foster parents to many children and consistently trained in joy without the rod. Peace and Joy fill the writing of the Pearls and they desire to see others walk with the Lord in fellowship with their children as well. What sweet things I have learned from the Pearl&#039;s that sadly, my parents never taught me. My children are better off for it. sincerely, karen a happy mother and wife who has been blessed by the ministry of Mike and Debi Pearl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. I was so thankful to find the pearls before I started parenting. My husband and I have been so blessed as we look into the faces of our children each day and smile, and train them according to Scripture; as we rise and set, with the joy of the Lord as our strength and driving foolishness away from the child as well as not leaving our children to themselves. What blessing has resulted. We bless others all the time, but more than that we reside in joyful harmony in our family. The Pearls have said many times that their training is humanistic techniques and not the gospel. They are clear on that. In addition, they share  Scripture as it pertains to child raising and share it in context which is pertinent for the Christian to know. The Pearls never condone spanking in anger, NEVER! They also tell of families full of love and joy that aren&#8217;t 100% consistent in their training that still raise children that walk in Truth. The Pearls don&#8217;t hide success that other have had without spanking. They even share how they were foster parents to many children and consistently trained in joy without the rod. Peace and Joy fill the writing of the Pearls and they desire to see others walk with the Lord in fellowship with their children as well. What sweet things I have learned from the Pearl&#8217;s that sadly, my parents never taught me. My children are better off for it. sincerely, karen a happy mother and wife who has been blessed by the ministry of Mike and Debi Pearl</p>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15126</link>
		<dc:creator>TulipGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Erica.  I&#039;m glad you are joining the conversation.  As you said, we each need to be &lt;i&gt;&quot;relying on the Lord to teach me to train my children appropriately and to raise them in His admonition.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

I know you have been encouraged by the Pearls.  Please continue to bring what they say to the Bible.  I&#039;m troubled by the Pearls&#039; teachings, especially their failure to point to the Gospel and the need that parents AND children need to lean into the grace of Jesus Christ daily.  That, in my experience, is the missing core of their teachings--living out the Gospel, and what that looks like in the home.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I just wanted to say that many of the Pearls publications have helped me understand that I need to be more kind. . .&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I know that the Pearls&#039; encouragement to &quot;tie heartstrings&quot; has helped others as well.  However, I&#039;ve found that sort of encouragement can be found from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FFive-Love-Languages-Children%2Fdp%2F1881273652%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214664350%26sr%3D8-4&amp;tag=tulipgirl-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;many&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=tulipgirl-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FHow-Really-Love-Your-Child%2Fdp%2F0781439124%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214664350%26sr%3D8-1&amp;tag=tulipgirl-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=tulipgirl-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FHeartfelt-Discipline-Gentle-Training-Guiding%2Fdp%2F1578565839%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214664385%26sr%3D8-1&amp;tag=tulipgirl-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sources&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=tulipgirl-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt;, without the conflicting messages that are in the Pearls&#039; writings (like adults pulling infant&#039;s hair, adults hitting toddlers with toys, and other examples that are not &quot;standard&quot; but are communicated as acceptable, in the illustrations they provide in TTUAC.)


&lt;i&gt;&quot;and appraise things well from a psychological and philosophical standpoint.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Would you explain what you mean by this more?  I&#039;m not exactly clear on what you&#039;re thinking by this.


&lt;i&gt;&quot;Their teachings have lined up well with scripture. . .&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, I have profound concerns about their misuse of Scripture and faulty theology.  I went into that some in the body of this post, however I&#039;d be willing to discuss it more with you, if you like.


&lt;i&gt;&quot;. . . and are not heavily focused on spankings. I believe what they promote is that spankings are sometimes necessary. . .&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

As it is taught, the Pearls imply that if you &quot;train&quot; your infants/toddlers consistently (in general, using physical punishment--taps, flicks, strikes, spanks) then it will result in the children learning early and prevent the need for spankings for older children.  That sounds attractive as the Pearls present it, but in practice, many parents find the &quot;consistent&quot; training ala the Pearls lead to many repeated swats or spanks.  The parents may be doing everything &quot;right&quot; ala the Pearls, but it isn&#039;t leading to the promised results.  Increased parental stress and parent/child antagonism continues to grow.  I&#039;ve seen this pattern lived out in families many, many times.  

&lt;i&gt;&quot;. . .a loving training environment where you foster fellowship, dignity and respect will develop children that rise up and call you blessed.&lt;/i&gt;

While parts of what the Pearls teach come across as they very much enjoy their children, in other parts of their writings they communicate a dehumanizing  attitude towards children.  (See Doug Wilson&#039;s quote in the text above.)

Again, Erica, I&#039;m glad you&#039;ve come by.  I would like to know what you meant by &quot;philosophical and psychological&quot; and other thoughts about this conversation.

Grace and peace,
TulipGirl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Erica.  I&#8217;m glad you are joining the conversation.  As you said, we each need to be <i>&#8220;relying on the Lord to teach me to train my children appropriately and to raise them in His admonition.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>I know you have been encouraged by the Pearls.  Please continue to bring what they say to the Bible.  I&#8217;m troubled by the Pearls&#8217; teachings, especially their failure to point to the Gospel and the need that parents AND children need to lean into the grace of Jesus Christ daily.  That, in my experience, is the missing core of their teachings&#8211;living out the Gospel, and what that looks like in the home.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I just wanted to say that many of the Pearls publications have helped me understand that I need to be more kind. . .&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I know that the Pearls&#8217; encouragement to &#8220;tie heartstrings&#8221; has helped others as well.  However, I&#8217;ve found that sort of encouragement can be found from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FFive-Love-Languages-Children%2Fdp%2F1881273652%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214664350%26sr%3D8-4&#038;tag=tulipgirl-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325" rel="nofollow">many</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=tulipgirl-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FHow-Really-Love-Your-Child%2Fdp%2F0781439124%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214664350%26sr%3D8-1&#038;tag=tulipgirl-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325" rel="nofollow">other</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=tulipgirl-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FHeartfelt-Discipline-Gentle-Training-Guiding%2Fdp%2F1578565839%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1214664385%26sr%3D8-1&#038;tag=tulipgirl-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325" rel="nofollow">sources</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=tulipgirl-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />, without the conflicting messages that are in the Pearls&#8217; writings (like adults pulling infant&#8217;s hair, adults hitting toddlers with toys, and other examples that are not &#8220;standard&#8221; but are communicated as acceptable, in the illustrations they provide in TTUAC.)</p>
<p><i>&#8220;and appraise things well from a psychological and philosophical standpoint.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Would you explain what you mean by this more?  I&#8217;m not exactly clear on what you&#8217;re thinking by this.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Their teachings have lined up well with scripture. . .</i></p>
<p>Actually, I have profound concerns about their misuse of Scripture and faulty theology.  I went into that some in the body of this post, however I&#8217;d be willing to discuss it more with you, if you like.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;. . . and are not heavily focused on spankings. I believe what they promote is that spankings are sometimes necessary. . .</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>As it is taught, the Pearls imply that if you &#8220;train&#8221; your infants/toddlers consistently (in general, using physical punishment&#8211;taps, flicks, strikes, spanks) then it will result in the children learning early and prevent the need for spankings for older children.  That sounds attractive as the Pearls present it, but in practice, many parents find the &#8220;consistent&#8221; training ala the Pearls lead to many repeated swats or spanks.  The parents may be doing everything &#8220;right&#8221; ala the Pearls, but it isn&#8217;t leading to the promised results.  Increased parental stress and parent/child antagonism continues to grow.  I&#8217;ve seen this pattern lived out in families many, many times.  </p>
<p><i>&#8220;. . .a loving training environment where you foster fellowship, dignity and respect will develop children that rise up and call you blessed.</i></p>
<p>While parts of what the Pearls teach come across as they very much enjoy their children, in other parts of their writings they communicate a dehumanizing  attitude towards children.  (See Doug Wilson&#8217;s quote in the text above.)</p>
<p>Again, Erica, I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve come by.  I would like to know what you meant by &#8220;philosophical and psychological&#8221; and other thoughts about this conversation.</p>
<p>Grace and peace,<br />
TulipGirl</p>
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		<title>By: Erica Goggans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica Goggans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a young parent who is also relying on the Lord to teach me to train my children appropriately and to raise them in His admonition.  I just wanted to say that many of the Pearls publications have helped me understand that I need to be more kind and appraise things well from a psychological and philosophical standpoint.  Their teachings have lined up well with scripture and are not heavily focused on spankings.  I believe what they promote is that spankings are sometimes necessary, but by and large a loving training environment where you foster fellowship, dignity and respect will develop children that rise up and call you blessed.  I just love them so much for the light they continue to shed in my life and would challenge all to try to get to know the heart of their ministry.  They are of great value just as all are who advance the kingdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a young parent who is also relying on the Lord to teach me to train my children appropriately and to raise them in His admonition.  I just wanted to say that many of the Pearls publications have helped me understand that I need to be more kind and appraise things well from a psychological and philosophical standpoint.  Their teachings have lined up well with scripture and are not heavily focused on spankings.  I believe what they promote is that spankings are sometimes necessary, but by and large a loving training environment where you foster fellowship, dignity and respect will develop children that rise up and call you blessed.  I just love them so much for the light they continue to shed in my life and would challenge all to try to get to know the heart of their ministry.  They are of great value just as all are who advance the kingdom.</p>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>TulipGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen, thanks for speaking up for proper use of BMod techniques.  When I first wrote this a few years ago, I was less informed about ABA and the way Behavior Modification is used, especially therapeutically.  

The Pearls rely on a model of parenting that focuses on using punishment (primarily hitting small children) that is somewhat like positive punishment/conditioning, and call it &quot;Biblical.&quot;  The Pearls also have a great distrust for anything that appears to be &quot;secular&quot; or &quot;psychological.&quot;  Hence, I was trying to show how what they promote is closer to what they don&#039;t like (behaviorism, conditioning, &quot;secular&quot; psychology) and not as Biblical as they proclaim.

When it comes to properly understood and properly used BMod, personally I believe it has a place in therapeutic educational situations more frequently than in the home (taking a cue from Ross Campbell.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen, thanks for speaking up for proper use of BMod techniques.  When I first wrote this a few years ago, I was less informed about ABA and the way Behavior Modification is used, especially therapeutically.  </p>
<p>The Pearls rely on a model of parenting that focuses on using punishment (primarily hitting small children) that is somewhat like positive punishment/conditioning, and call it &#8220;Biblical.&#8221;  The Pearls also have a great distrust for anything that appears to be &#8220;secular&#8221; or &#8220;psychological.&#8221;  Hence, I was trying to show how what they promote is closer to what they don&#8217;t like (behaviorism, conditioning, &#8220;secular&#8221; psychology) and not as Biblical as they proclaim.</p>
<p>When it comes to properly understood and properly used BMod, personally I believe it has a place in therapeutic educational situations more frequently than in the home (taking a cue from Ross Campbell.)</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great differences, Jen. Comparing our older three (who had some Pearl and Ezzo parenting going on by us back then) to our younger two sons, I&#039;d say we&#039;re much more balanced and grace-based (and yet still pretty strict!) than we were when we were younger parents.  Our main thing is to make sure we stick to the vows we took to raise them in the nurture and admonition of the Lord -- and that life stops for child-training.  Much of what we saw with the Ps and Es left out the spiritual condition of children and just thought a cut-and-dried method of right and wrong was enough.  My .02.  Thanks, Tulipgirl, for letting us discuss this.  God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great differences, Jen. Comparing our older three (who had some Pearl and Ezzo parenting going on by us back then) to our younger two sons, I&#8217;d say we&#8217;re much more balanced and grace-based (and yet still pretty strict!) than we were when we were younger parents.  Our main thing is to make sure we stick to the vows we took to raise them in the nurture and admonition of the Lord &#8212; and that life stops for child-training.  Much of what we saw with the Ps and Es left out the spiritual condition of children and just thought a cut-and-dried method of right and wrong was enough.  My .02.  Thanks, Tulipgirl, for letting us discuss this.  God bless.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Tulipgirl.  I just came across your blog, and read a few entries.  This post in particular caught my eye since I am trained in &quot;Behavior Modification&quot; (its actually part of my official title at work) and am working on my MS.Ed. specializing in Applied Behavior Analysis.  I have worked the last 8 years (all of my post-college adult life, and skipping the year I stayed home with my daughter) working with adults with developmental disabilities and in the year prior to my daughter&#039;s birth, with an Early Intervention Program, with toddlers birth to age three with developmental delays.  I just wanted to point out that &quot;Behavior Modification&quot; and spanking, punitive methods of childrearing are not on the same page.  Behavior Mod for children (well, all humans) is also not the same as Behavior Mod for animals (although the basic ideas and principles are).  I have NOT read the book you are referring, so I cannot state an opinion on that matter.  It just struck me that, in reading your post and the email you responded to, you seem to be saying that they are hand-in-hand partners.  I use &quot;behavior mod&quot; with my daughter all the time.  I also would describe myself as &quot;Attachment Parenting&quot; oriented (although not strictly so).  I am definitely not raising a &quot;trained seal&quot; as some anti-behavior mod parents will have you believe.  I just wanted to write and let you know there is a difference!  Thanks, Jen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Tulipgirl.  I just came across your blog, and read a few entries.  This post in particular caught my eye since I am trained in &#8220;Behavior Modification&#8221; (its actually part of my official title at work) and am working on my MS.Ed. specializing in Applied Behavior Analysis.  I have worked the last 8 years (all of my post-college adult life, and skipping the year I stayed home with my daughter) working with adults with developmental disabilities and in the year prior to my daughter&#8217;s birth, with an Early Intervention Program, with toddlers birth to age three with developmental delays.  I just wanted to point out that &#8220;Behavior Modification&#8221; and spanking, punitive methods of childrearing are not on the same page.  Behavior Mod for children (well, all humans) is also not the same as Behavior Mod for animals (although the basic ideas and principles are).  I have NOT read the book you are referring, so I cannot state an opinion on that matter.  It just struck me that, in reading your post and the email you responded to, you seem to be saying that they are hand-in-hand partners.  I use &#8220;behavior mod&#8221; with my daughter all the time.  I also would describe myself as &#8220;Attachment Parenting&#8221; oriented (although not strictly so).  I am definitely not raising a &#8220;trained seal&#8221; as some anti-behavior mod parents will have you believe.  I just wanted to write and let you know there is a difference!  Thanks, Jen</p>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>TulipGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, it really disappoints me to see how many times those who are coming from a Reformed point of view have a disconnect between their theology and their parenting.  A friend once pointed out how much of the development of the Ezzos&#039; materials were in reaction to the prevailing permissiveness they experience during their time in SoCal.  I think that often, Christians have embraced these flawed parenting teachings, not because the teachings are Biblical, but because they do see the problems in the wider world and in reaction are grasping for something &quot;Christian.&quot;

I find that coming from a Reformed and Covenantal point of view, I have to reject the underlying premises of what is taught by the Ezzos, the Pearls, Tripp, etc. . .  

But, it does leave us as Christian parents in a difficult situation. We DO need tools as we are going through our daily walk of nurturing our children.   

For me, I need to keep in mind my need of a Savior, daily.  My sin is a daily reminder of my need for grace.  When this is at the forefront of my mind, then it is easier to communicate that to my children.  (Yes, my children are sinners in need of  Savior.  They are also children of the Covenant, and my brothers in Christ.)

My oldest is almost 12.  A combination of factors (one of which is our early parenting mistakes, another is he is prone to the same sins I am--who likes seeing a mirror of their sins?!) means that he and I especially have a more difficult time.  I am more prone to adopt an antagonistic attitude towards him than I am with the others.  Yet, the Lord has brought tremendous healing and continues to do so.

There are not &quot;easy&quot; answers, no formulas, no five-step parenting plan I can recommend.  You and your son will have struggles.  But I believe that the more you see him as your brother in Christ and the more you seek to communicate the Gospel to him, and view his sin as a reason to point him to Christ (rather than a reason to punish), the more your relationship will be built.

That sounds good, but it can be hard to have good theory in the middle of a trying moment.  On the practical side, my first tool of response in a situation that needs mommy-intervention is &quot;Hug&amp;Pray.&quot;  Hugging or holding my child on my lap calms me down, calms them down, prevents me from reacting in anger, gives an opportunity to reconnect.  Praying (either silently or out loud, depending on the situation) provides a time to seek God&#039;s wisdom and supernatural peace in the immediate situation and illustrates to both me and my child that I am dependent upon the Lord in parenting.

The next step. . . depends.  In response to the situation, the Lord, the child. . .  It may include correction and repenting.  It may include snuggling and singing.  It may include a project of restitution.   Regardless, it is a result of leaning into the Lord and reconnecting with my child.

Grace and peace,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, it really disappoints me to see how many times those who are coming from a Reformed point of view have a disconnect between their theology and their parenting.  A friend once pointed out how much of the development of the Ezzos&#8217; materials were in reaction to the prevailing permissiveness they experience during their time in SoCal.  I think that often, Christians have embraced these flawed parenting teachings, not because the teachings are Biblical, but because they do see the problems in the wider world and in reaction are grasping for something &#8220;Christian.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find that coming from a Reformed and Covenantal point of view, I have to reject the underlying premises of what is taught by the Ezzos, the Pearls, Tripp, etc. . .  </p>
<p>But, it does leave us as Christian parents in a difficult situation. We DO need tools as we are going through our daily walk of nurturing our children.   </p>
<p>For me, I need to keep in mind my need of a Savior, daily.  My sin is a daily reminder of my need for grace.  When this is at the forefront of my mind, then it is easier to communicate that to my children.  (Yes, my children are sinners in need of  Savior.  They are also children of the Covenant, and my brothers in Christ.)</p>
<p>My oldest is almost 12.  A combination of factors (one of which is our early parenting mistakes, another is he is prone to the same sins I am&#8211;who likes seeing a mirror of their sins?!) means that he and I especially have a more difficult time.  I am more prone to adopt an antagonistic attitude towards him than I am with the others.  Yet, the Lord has brought tremendous healing and continues to do so.</p>
<p>There are not &#8220;easy&#8221; answers, no formulas, no five-step parenting plan I can recommend.  You and your son will have struggles.  But I believe that the more you see him as your brother in Christ and the more you seek to communicate the Gospel to him, and view his sin as a reason to point him to Christ (rather than a reason to punish), the more your relationship will be built.</p>
<p>That sounds good, but it can be hard to have good theory in the middle of a trying moment.  On the practical side, my first tool of response in a situation that needs mommy-intervention is &#8220;Hug&amp;Pray.&#8221;  Hugging or holding my child on my lap calms me down, calms them down, prevents me from reacting in anger, gives an opportunity to reconnect.  Praying (either silently or out loud, depending on the situation) provides a time to seek God&#8217;s wisdom and supernatural peace in the immediate situation and illustrates to both me and my child that I am dependent upon the Lord in parenting.</p>
<p>The next step. . . depends.  In response to the situation, the Lord, the child. . .  It may include correction and repenting.  It may include snuggling and singing.  It may include a project of restitution.   Regardless, it is a result of leaning into the Lord and reconnecting with my child.</p>
<p>Grace and peace,</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15072</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was heavily influenced during our time at a sound, Reformed leaning Baptist seminary by Tedd Tripp, the Ezzos, and the Pearls. You know what? It didn&#039;t work! My oldest is 8 and as strong willed as they come. I think it made us more antagonist to each other even now. I feel like for the rest of our lives will be repairing the damage. What alternative? I still don&#039;t know how to handle him sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was heavily influenced during our time at a sound, Reformed leaning Baptist seminary by Tedd Tripp, the Ezzos, and the Pearls. You know what? It didn&#8217;t work! My oldest is 8 and as strong willed as they come. I think it made us more antagonist to each other even now. I feel like for the rest of our lives will be repairing the damage. What alternative? I still don&#8217;t know how to handle him sometimes.</p>
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		<dc:creator>TulipGirl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Perfect Family</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 14, said that it didn&#8217;t surprise her that Paddock would discipline her children following the instruction of a minister who wrote about child rearing.  Paddock &#8220;wanted her family to be perfect. So she would pretty [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15104</link>
		<dc:creator>TulipGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seasonal Learner,

I&#039;ve heard about Parenting With Love and Logic, but haven&#039;t read it.  Most of what I&#039;ve heard has been on the more positive side, though.  I&#039;d be interested in hearing your thoughts on it when you are finished reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seasonal Learner,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard about Parenting With Love and Logic, but haven&#8217;t read it.  Most of what I&#8217;ve heard has been on the more positive side, though.  I&#8217;d be interested in hearing your thoughts on it when you are finished reading it.</p>
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		<title>By: Seasonal Learner</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15066</link>
		<dc:creator>Seasonal Learner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve really enjoyed your parenting post. I&#039;ve gleaned a lot of information from your site. You have a very gentle attitude without &quot;bashing&quot; different parenting styles. I come from a very &quot;spare the rod, spoil the child&quot;, parents are in control of their daughter&#039;s life until married background. My sis suggested reading &quot;Parenting with Love and Logic&quot; and I am loving it. I would love to know your thoughts on the book if you have read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve really enjoyed your parenting post. I&#8217;ve gleaned a lot of information from your site. You have a very gentle attitude without &#8220;bashing&#8221; different parenting styles. I come from a very &#8220;spare the rod, spoil the child&#8221;, parents are in control of their daughter&#8217;s life until married background. My sis suggested reading &#8220;Parenting with Love and Logic&#8221; and I am loving it. I would love to know your thoughts on the book if you have read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15065</link>
		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have enjoyed these thought-provoking discussions.  Our children are 6, 9, 13, 15 and 17, currently public schoolers although we&#039;ve hsed in the past, well-adjusted despite our earlier attempts at Ezzo/Pearl styles, and we are just so thankful for the grace of God in our lives.  Thanks for your blog.  God bless you and yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have enjoyed these thought-provoking discussions.  Our children are 6, 9, 13, 15 and 17, currently public schoolers although we&#8217;ve hsed in the past, well-adjusted despite our earlier attempts at Ezzo/Pearl styles, and we are just so thankful for the grace of God in our lives.  Thanks for your blog.  God bless you and yours.</p>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15059</link>
		<dc:creator>TulipGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missy, it&#039;s so good to &quot;meet&quot; you.  Like you, I had four-under-four-years at one point.  It&#039;s fun, but challenging.  (My boys are now 7, 9, 10 and 12-this-month.)

You are so right about how the Lord so often seems to teach us more about Himself and how we love Him by first introducing one idea, and then it snowballs. . .

With motherhood being such a significant part of my life right now, I find that so much of what the Lord is doing in my life spiritually is through the object lessons in motherhood.  

I think you&#039;d find some mommy-encouragement in this article:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2005/03/restoring-gently-and-carrying-burdens/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Restoring Gently and Carrying Burdens&lt;/a&gt;

Grace and peace,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missy, it&#8217;s so good to &#8220;meet&#8221; you.  Like you, I had four-under-four-years at one point.  It&#8217;s fun, but challenging.  (My boys are now 7, 9, 10 and 12-this-month.)</p>
<p>You are so right about how the Lord so often seems to teach us more about Himself and how we love Him by first introducing one idea, and then it snowballs. . .</p>
<p>With motherhood being such a significant part of my life right now, I find that so much of what the Lord is doing in my life spiritually is through the object lessons in motherhood.  </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;d find some mommy-encouragement in this article:<br />
<a href="http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2005/03/restoring-gently-and-carrying-burdens/" rel="nofollow">Restoring Gently and Carrying Burdens</a></p>
<p>Grace and peace,</p>
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		<dc:creator>TulipGirl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Restoring Gently and Carrying Burdens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] temptation&#8211;to test him and see whether he can withstand it (or be punished.) This method is encouraged by some for training toddlers and preschoolers, and seems to be very contrary to bearing the burdens of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] temptation&#8211;to test him and see whether he can withstand it (or be punished.) This method is encouraged by some for training toddlers and preschoolers, and seems to be very contrary to bearing the burdens of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15057</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, wow. 

You know how God will begin to teach you something and soon you will be shot by it from all directions? Congrats on being one of the arrows in his holy quiver. 

My oldest child is 4 so I am still very green at this discipline thing. I read TTUAC a while back and while it had some points, I just didn&#039;t like it. It just checked my soul. I do still subscribe to their newsletter, honestly, mostly for freak-show value. The attitude of pride that pervades every page is so strong it is overwhelming.

So, the arrows shot at me lately have all been regarding heart-based discipline. I am even wrote a devotional about it for Thus that I hope you will read on my blog. So to literally stumble across this article at this time is so fortuitous. 

Thanks for summing up exactly why the Pearls have always made me a little queasy. I don&#039;t yet have to wisdom to articulate it myself. 

God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, wow. </p>
<p>You know how God will begin to teach you something and soon you will be shot by it from all directions? Congrats on being one of the arrows in his holy quiver. </p>
<p>My oldest child is 4 so I am still very green at this discipline thing. I read TTUAC a while back and while it had some points, I just didn&#8217;t like it. It just checked my soul. I do still subscribe to their newsletter, honestly, mostly for freak-show value. The attitude of pride that pervades every page is so strong it is overwhelming.</p>
<p>So, the arrows shot at me lately have all been regarding heart-based discipline. I am even wrote a devotional about it for Thus that I hope you will read on my blog. So to literally stumble across this article at this time is so fortuitous. </p>
<p>Thanks for summing up exactly why the Pearls have always made me a little queasy. I don&#8217;t yet have to wisdom to articulate it myself. </p>
<p>God bless.</p>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2008/05/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-repeat/comment-page-1/#comment-15054</link>
		<dc:creator>TulipGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;. . .at the end of the day.. I am laying flat on my face at the foot of the cross needing the Lord to guide me through.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Isn&#039;t this the truth, though?  Isn&#039;t this what we need to be reminded of daily?  As people, and as parents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;. . .at the end of the day.. I am laying flat on my face at the foot of the cross needing the Lord to guide me through.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this the truth, though?  Isn&#8217;t this what we need to be reminded of daily?  As people, and as parents?</p>
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		<title>By: Mica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this. I know Carol has sent me this before and other articles re: discipline. I have read through the Pearls books and really didn&#039;t like them.. I think Mr. Pearl is pretty harsh as a husbund too, very belittling to his wife too. I grew up in a non Christian home as well as an abusive home... so, now as an adult and Christian I still struggle with  the rod topic etc... I want to do what is right in God&#039;s eyes for us as parents and use Biblical truths as well. My children are sinners as we all are ... they have their moments of true selfishness and disobeidience.. yet.. I have rarely used the rod... My son hasn&#039;t needed a &quot;spank&quot; for years. I will agree... the tactics of the Pearls are unloving. We must deal with the heart issues not the actions... I hope I didn&#039;t sound naive or ignorant.. I am still only learning myself... and at the end of the day.. I am laying flat on my face at the foot of the cross needing the Lord to guide me through. My day starts out like a nice piece of toast and some days they end burned. 

Mica Garbarino</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this. I know Carol has sent me this before and other articles re: discipline. I have read through the Pearls books and really didn&#8217;t like them.. I think Mr. Pearl is pretty harsh as a husbund too, very belittling to his wife too. I grew up in a non Christian home as well as an abusive home&#8230; so, now as an adult and Christian I still struggle with  the rod topic etc&#8230; I want to do what is right in God&#8217;s eyes for us as parents and use Biblical truths as well. My children are sinners as we all are &#8230; they have their moments of true selfishness and disobeidience.. yet.. I have rarely used the rod&#8230; My son hasn&#8217;t needed a &#8220;spank&#8221; for years. I will agree&#8230; the tactics of the Pearls are unloving. We must deal with the heart issues not the actions&#8230; I hope I didn&#8217;t sound naive or ignorant.. I am still only learning myself&#8230; and at the end of the day.. I am laying flat on my face at the foot of the cross needing the Lord to guide me through. My day starts out like a nice piece of toast and some days they end burned. </p>
<p>Mica Garbarino</p>
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