Доверяй, но проверяй
Posted by TulipGirl | Under Blog Stuff Friday Sep 26, 2008Molodyetz, Senator McCain, on the “Trust, but verify” nod to Ronald Reagan. That made me smile, along with McCain’s understanding of the nuances of Georgia, Ukraine, and NATO. (And the nuance of accurately saying Ukraine, rather than Obama’s the Ukraine.)
Yes, the focus of the debate was much broader than Eastern Europe, but I appreciated McCain’s strong statement of support for Ukraine.
MCCAIN: Well, I was interested in Senator Obama’s reaction to the Russian aggression against Georgia. His first statement was, “Both sides ought to show restraint.”
Again, a little bit of naivete there. He doesn’t understand that Russia committed serious aggression against Georgia. And Russia has now become a nation fueled by petro-dollars that is basically a KGB apparatchik-run government.
I looked into Mr. Putin’s eyes, and I saw three letters, a “K,” a “G,” and a “B.” And their aggression in Georgia is not acceptable behavior.
I don’t believe we’re going to go back to the Cold War. I am sure that that will not happen. But I do believe that we need to bolster our friends and allies. And that wasn’t just about a problem between Georgia and Russia. It had everything to do with energy.
There’s a pipeline that runs from the Caspian through Georgia through Turkey. And, of course, we know that the Russians control other sources of energy into Europe, which they have used from time to time.
It’s not accidental that the presidents of Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, and Ukraine flew to Georgia, flew to Tbilisi, where I have spent significant amount of time with a great young president, Misha Saakashvili.
And they showed solidarity with them, but, also, they are very concerned about the Russian threats to regain their status of the old Russian to regain their status of the old Russian empire.
Now, I think the Russians ought to understand that we will support — we, the United States — will support the inclusion of Georgia and Ukraine in the natural process, inclusion into NATO.
We also ought to make it very clear that the Russians are in violation of their cease-fire agreement. They have stationed additional troops in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
By the way, I went there once, and we went inside and drove in, and there was a huge poster. And this is — this is Georgian territory. And there was a huge poster of Vladimir Putin, and it said, “Vladimir Putin, our president.”
It was very clear, the Russian intentions towards Georgia. They were just waiting to seize the opportunity.
So, this is a very difficult situation. We want to work with the Russians. But we also have every right to expect the Russians to behave in a fashion and keeping with a — with a — with a country who respects international boundaries and the norms of international behavior.
And watch Ukraine. This whole thing has got a lot to do with Ukraine, Crimea, the base of the Russian fleet in Sevastopol. And the breakdown of the political process in Ukraine between Tymoshenko and Yushchenko is a very serious problem.
So watch Ukraine, and let’s make sure that we — that the Ukrainians understand that we are their friend and ally.
I’m ashamed to admit I’m not as political as I’d like to be. I always enjoy reading your take on things!
Glad to share my observations and opinions, Jenn! It’s been interesting this election cycle. . . In the past, I’ve had friends with vastly different views on political issues and candidates, yet we enjoyed hashing things out in a friendly way. This time around it has seemed like people with differing views are taking things more. . . personally?. . . and so the usual back-and-forth has been limited. (Not with everyone. . . but enough people in my circle that I’ve been wary both posting here and discussing IRL.)
All that to say, thanks for the encouragement to keep posting!
Some friends and I were discussing the mention of Ukraine on Facebook, and I thought sharing what I wrote there was related to this post:
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Putting “the” in front of Ukraine is very politically loaded. . . And Obama probably wasn’t aware. Our generation grew up saying “the” Ukraine. In Russian, it is the equivalent of saying “the borderlands” and that was. . . okay. . . under the USSR. However, with Ukrainian independence, saying “the” is perpetuating the idea that Ukraine is simply an extension of Russia, and not its own separate political entity.”
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“Similarly, Kiev is the English spelling of the Russified form of the capital of Ukraine. Kyiv is the English spelling of the Ukrainian name of the city. Kiev is what we grew up with and is pronounced Key-ev. Kyiv is what is more accurate now, and is pronounced Keeev.
Again, this is minutiae in many respects, because people who say the Ukraine and Kiev are unintentionally just continuing what they learned as they were growing up. But in some circles it is very politically loaded. . . and for some of us, we DO have a strong preference for intentionally recognizing Ukrainian independence in our speech.”
I’m glad to read this. I am not thrilled that McCain is our candidate, but the past several weeks have made me much more likely to vote.
Last election was more contentious for me, but then I very much support W, and I’m not going to stick my neck out for McCain. I strongly suspect that he’s a jerk. Hopefully I will discover that I’m wrong!
Ohhhh, thanks for the historic and political details! I DID grow up saying “the Ukraine” and really would like to correct that in light of their independence! Thanks!