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November 26, 2004

Scholarly Resources

I just found SCSU Scholars through I-can't-remember-who. Someone deserves a link here. *blush*

I've read some so-called analysis of what's going on in Kyiv, where it is clear the reporter or whoever just doesn't get it. On the other hand, here's King--who has lived, studied and worked in Ukraine.

Check out his maps--hopefully they will help convey another point in the grand scheme of election corruption.


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Many thanks. You are doing a great job, and we need your eyes on the scene! Keep posting, and stay safe.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.


Posted by: kb at November 26, 2004 09:05 PM

I have been watching the news, and hearing of the things going in the Ukraine, and I have been thinking of you and your family. Some of the news reports are saying words like "civil war." You're in my prayers.

Posted by: Kim in ON at November 26, 2004 10:54 PM

Hey there! I've been watching the Ukraine election process intensely from over here stateside and must say you're doing a great job, and are one of my main sources for information, first-hand and straight from the ground.

Thanks a lot, and keep up the good work!

Posted by: K1avg at November 27, 2004 12:46 AM

Honestly, Kim, I'm even reluctant at this point to use the world "revolution" and when journalists start batting around the term "civil war" it makes me very uncomfortable. That's just not where things are here--and I am very hopeful that things will simply not get to that point. Those who are involved are excited, energetic, hopeful--there is concern, but no fear or anger or emotions that would fuel major conflict.

Posted by: TulipGirl at November 27, 2004 12:51 AM

Tulip, Thanks for the great reporting on the election. Keep up the great work.

Posted by: Gary at November 27, 2004 09:13 AM

Have you seen this document by the Helsinki Human Rights Group?

The British Helsinki Human Rights Group (BHHRG) sent observers to the second round of the presidential election in Ukraine on 21st November 2004. BHHRG monitored the election in the city and district of Kiev, Chernigov, and Transcarpathia. Counts were observed in central Kiev and Uzhgorod.

Contrary to the condemnations issued by the team of professional politicians and diplomats deployed by the OSCE mainly from NATO and EU states, the BHHRG observers did not see evidence of government-organized fraud nor of suppression of opposition media. Improbably high votes for Prime Minister, Viktor Yanukovich, have been reported from south-eastern Ukraine but less attention has been given to the 90% pro-Yushchenko results declared in western Ukraine.

Although Western media widely claimed that in Ukraine the opposition was, in effect, excluded from the broadcast media, particularly in western Ukraine the opposite was the case. On the eve of the poll – in flagrant violation of the law banning propaganda for candidates – a series of so-called “social information” advertisements showing well-known pop stars like Eurovision winner Ruslana wearing the orange symbols of Mr Yushchenko’s candidacy and urging people to vote appeared on state television.

Whatever may have been the case in south-eastern Ukraine, it was clear to this Group’s observers in central Ukraine and western Ukraine that the opposition exercised near complete control. The broadcast media showed bias towards Mr. Yushchenko in these areas, particularly in western Ukraine where Mr Yanukovich was invisible – not even being shown voting on polling day. It is naïve to think only the government had the facilities to exercise improper influence over the polls. From what BHHRG observed, the opposition exercised disproportionate control over the electoral process in many places, giving rise to concerns that the opposition – not only the authorities – may have committed violations and may have even falsified the vote in opposition-controlled areas. So-called “administrative resources” in places visited by BHHRG appeared to be in the hands of the opposition, not the government, and this may have frightened voters.

Posted by: George at November 27, 2004 11:59 AM


Considering the limited scope of their activities, I'm much more willing to believe the OSCE's actual documentation of corruption as well as the myriad personal stories of friends who observed first-hand the corruption.

Of course we want truth and integrity. But if you were here to see the Ukrainians rising up against corruption, you would see just how foolish what you posted is.

Posted by: TulipGirl at November 27, 2004 01:23 PM

I'm glad you clarified the situation for me. I always have to wonder how things REALLY are somewhere in the world when the reports coming out are so extreme.

Posted by: Kim in ON at November 27, 2004 03:02 PM

George, if you are interested in reading more about the BHHRG, check out this link:

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