Worries about Using Force Tonight

From Hotline:

"All the officers of the department of Ministry of Internal Affairs of Kyiv were called to the department for 23.30. All the employees received an order to come in winter clothes and with weapons. They will receive other instructions at the meeting."

Please continue to pray for peace in Ukraine, especially in Kyiv. I'm concerned that possibilities of violence may increase, with the new agreement reached and confusion about what it means. And that Kuchma et al may be desparate enough to use force.

I rejoice, however, that it appears that all parties involved have agreed to not use force in resolving this. Thank you for your ongoing prayers.

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Hi,
I was looking for a contact/e-mail address to ask you for some info on the meaning of some news. I couldn't find anything, so I'll give you mine and ask away here. I am an American of Ukrainian descent and have been following the news and blogs constantly (my prayers are with you and yours.. when I am reading an update, sometimes I don't know if it is a good sign of events or not-so-good. Since I live here in the US, I don't know what "the Ministry of Internal Affairs" stands for or if they are with the orange "Ukrainians" and for Ukraine or not...so I can't interpret the news correctly..also example, Maidan-someone wanted others to contact ministry of salvation? in their area due to a possible problem in their area. I would like to know if you have a link to a good site that explains the ministries, who they are behind and backing, and how to contact if someone needs them to. A really good map with time zones and Oblasts? would be helpful also..I would like to help, and if an e-mail is necessary to show support, I need the above information to do it correctly.

God bless, if I can help in a small way, I would like to..your web page is awesome. Thanks for all you do...Helena
Posted by: Helena at December 2, 2004 07:44 AM

continuing to pray for you!
Posted by: Dana at December 2, 2004 12:40 PM

Helena,
I'm so encouraged by your comments. I'll ask Hubby if he knows of some really good resources that answer your questions, and post them soon.

Dana,
Thank you!!
Posted by: TulipGirl at December 2, 2004 01:56 PM

Slava Icycy Xresty!
Hi, Tulipgirl!
I am an American of Ukrainian descent, in New York City. Please know that in cities and towns all over the United States, Ukrainians and Ukrainian-Americans have held demonstrations, since the runoff election, in support of "Nasha Ukraina", in support of Yuschenko. We are very, very concerned about what is going on in Ukraine. President Bush correctly said that "The whole world is watching Ukraine." We are watching and praying for you all. Please tell others in Ukraine that freedom-loving Americans are with freedom-loving Ukrainians 100%.

Lida

Posted by: Lida at December 2, 2004 02:51 PM

> A really good map with time zones and Oblasts?

Thought I'd chime in with a bit if info. :)

Ukraine is in one time zone: EET.
http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/eet.html

An orange/blue map of oblasts are at the bottom of this page:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4043315.stm
HTH?
Posted by: JohnK at December 2, 2004 03:12 PM

Thanks to all the above for the links and the help. I was almost too embarassed to post these questions. Figured out time zones, found map, still uncertain about governmental structure (see comment above). Helps alot in comprehending what I read.

Thanks again,
Helena
Posted by: Helena at December 2, 2004 07:39 PM

Tulipgirl,

There is SOOOO much news on what is happening in the Ukraine, and I fear that much of it is speculation -- there is such a great fear (on my part anyway) that the outcome is being written "behind closed doors". Then, I got a message from a friend that directed me to "Hubby's" blog, and eventually got re-directed here.

The same friend forwarded to me a wonderful analysis of what is in fact happening -- "THREE MOVES TOWARDS CHECKMATE" OP-ED by L.A. Wolanskyj, founder of Eastern Economist Kyiv, Ukraine, Thursday, December 2, 2004 The Action Ukraine Report, Washington, D.C.
Thursday, December 2, 2004...

I bought my air tickets to Kiev months ago and am scheduled to leave Minnesota Dec. 28th. I wish I could leave now!!! Thanks for your reporting. Hope we can meet sometime soon.

Posted by: Kevin at December 3, 2004 06:55 AM

In reply to Helena who asked about:
> a link to a good site that explains the ministries

OK, how about this one:
http://www.kmu.gov.ua/control/en/publish/officialcategory?cat_id=73007

Hooray for Google! :)

I'll also throw in:
http://www.nti.org/db/nisprofs/ukraine/govt/mnstries.htm

And for the obsessed ;) here are a ton of links:
http://www.brama.com/ua-gov/

But none of the above really explain how orange they are.

(Just as an aside, I've tended to use
http://www.brama.com/news/index.html
to keep up with the news.)
Posted by: JohnK at December 3, 2004 01:24 PM

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