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Gandalf vs. Dumbledore

Who'd win and why?

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Fight? They wouldn't fight. They'd sit down together and drink scotch.
Posted by: kristen at July 31, 2005 05:21 PM

I think Dumbledore would love introducing Gandalf to butterbeer. For Gandalf, it would be introducing pipeweed. They'd have a drink, smoke a pipe or two and then go at it.

As much as I ADORE Dumbledore, Gandalf would win, simply by the fact that he's not human but one of the Maia. If he used only his powers as a "human wizard" then maybe there would be a better match.

What a fun question though! Mind if I borrow it for my blog?
Posted by: Jennifer at July 31, 2005 09:29 PM

Well, if it was Sam, Pippen or Merry and Dumbledore, I think there would be a lot of good eating.

I think Gandalf and Dumbledore would sit down and talk a little philosophy.
Posted by: Kim in ON at August 1, 2005 07:47 AM

They wouldn't just talk philosophy. They'd introduce one another to good ale, pipeweed, muggle sweets, and butterbeer, share their respective enthusiasm for hobbits and teenagers, and swap stories about the hand of Providence in their respective adventures. There'd be some philosophy in there, but it would be related to real life experiences and events, not abstractions.

They might get into an argument over who is worse, Sauron or Voldemort, but it would be a light hearted one like this discussion. Gandalf might even be able to fill Dumbledore in on how Voldemort actually is lineally (not physically, but spiritually somehow) to Sauron, through the Slytherin line. ;-) And of course, Dumbledore would be fascinated by Gandalf's story of what it's like to take a second bite of the apple of life, so to speak.
Posted by: pentamom at August 4, 2005 01:34 PM

To do so, both of them would have to become possessed by evil. Otherwise they would probably do all the not-fighting things that people have described above, then trade tips on beard care. (keeping it white in the fight)

So assuming they are possessed, which wouldn't happen, both are tough. However, Sauruman beat Gandalf, while Volodemort didn't defeat Dumbledore, so technically, if it was a straight one on one, money's on Dumbledore.

Adding more complexity, the key strength they share is in defeating their enemies by outthinking them months in advance. Evidence: How many of the conclusions to HP books have been explained by Dumbledore. (not to mention his big part in this last one; if you haven't read it, you know this by page 70, so relax) If Gandalf hadn't sleuthed out a millenia old mystery and figured out which ring that was, it would have been goodbye Middle Earth.

So you can assume Dumbledore would get to the ring and Gandalf would get to Harry, both worlds collapse into violence and chaos around the two combatants, and the nexus would swallow them up before we had a chance to determine a winner.
Posted by: Dan McMinn at August 5, 2005 12:36 AM

Y'all are right, looking at it realistically and philosopically.

But little boys aren't like that. They are constantly asking, "What would win--a blue whale or a great white shark? A green dragon or a red dragon? Spiderman or Batman? Legolas or Aragon?"
Posted by: TulipGirl at August 14, 2005 11:15 PM

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